Originally posted by

John Currey

Did you think about rereading your horribly fact challenged article before submitting it?

Did your editor put your article in the wrong basket: as, in or trash?

Hopefully you will get a bit of economic education prior to commencement!

jc

Originally posted by

John Currey

Did you think about rereading your horribly fact challenged article before submitting it?

Did your editor put your article in the wrong basket: as, in or trash?

Hopefully you will get a bit of economic education prior to commencement!

jc

Originally posted by

John Currey

Did you think about rereading your horribly fact challenged article before submitting it?

Did your editor put your article in the wrong basket: as, in or trash?

Hopefully you will get a bit of economic education prior to commencement!

jc

Originally posted by

Lacy

Wow, looks to me the only way Republicans here at EIU can get their point across is by being immature, juvenile, ignorant, and childish. This is exactly why the Republican party is fragmented and pulling away from the American people. And at Tea Party Protests they do encourage the public to go the Website Ms. Thomas uses in her column. How do I know? Because I have gone. I am an independent, so I am interested in learning about all sides. I have found that these protests do use the "dirty" slogan and giggle when they say it. I am not particularly impressed by the current Admin, but as a pre-service teacher I see the benefit of such social programs that the Tea Party and other conservative Republicans want to eliminate. And yes, the movement does talk about the laziness of poor people. Maybe if Eastern students and Alumni want to comment on any articles they should not do it in anger, but with respect and intelligence. It's embarrassing that EIU has such ignorant, selfish, and clueless alumni still posting on the college paper's online site.

Originally posted by

Mark

Since someone requested some intelligent deconstruction of her arguemtents and facts, I will be more than willing. First and foremost, the term is "Tea Party Movement" NOT the Tea Bag Party Movement. The word tea-baggers has been used by those within the movement and by the liberals in the media/government/etc who want to put them down. If you are so worried about this term being used, you may want to quit the Democratic party too. So here we go.

1. "Using God as a way to get back to the White House."
"You know who else fed the poor? Jesus."
So, what you are saying is that it is not okay for the Tea Party to "use God," but is fine for you use Jesus to put down the Tea Party. Glad I could get that one straight.

2. Sarah Palin compared herself to God
I hardly think that saying "if writing on His hand was good enough for God it is good enoug for me" is comparing herself to God. That is like saying "if bread and wine were good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me" is comparing yourself to Jesus.

3. All tea-party membes are "right-wingers-for-Jesus."
Frankly, it seems like since Sarah Palin is a "fundamentalist Christian" you assume that everyone in the party is therefore the same. Maybe many are, but this is not true.

4. "Food, shelter, health care, and education are basic needs."
While they are basic needs for all people, this does not mean that the government necessarily needs to provide all of this for us. There are some people who are disabled or unable to find quality work who do need help. However, to say that if someone does not have these things the government needs to step in is insulting to the American people. We were founded on the basis that we have right to provide for ourselves, lest the government will have all control over us.

5. "Many Americans in poverty are not lazy"
I love this quote because you admit that there is a large portion of Americans in poverty that are lazy. Otherwise, you would have used a phrase like "nearly all" or "almost all." Many is a very vague word that could mean 51% for all we know.

6. The Bush deficits
1990 42.0
2000 35.1
2001 33.0
2002 34.1
2003 35.1
2004 37.3
2005 37.5
2006 37.1
2007 36.9
2008 40.8
2009 54.6
2010 67.1 (est)
2011 70.1 (est)

Looks to me like he kept them fairly steady for 8 years in terms of a percentage of our GDP. However, in just 3 years Obama will increase the debt by 30% of our GDP. While some of this can be attributed to the bailouts, most of it cannot.

I find it odd that a political science major would do so little background work into some of this information. There are definately problems with the tea party, government spending, and many other things, but at least get your facts straight and make adequat arguements.

Originally posted by

Mark

Since someone requested some intelligent deconstruction of her arguemtents and facts, I will be more than willing. First and foremost, the term is "Tea Party Movement" NOT the Tea Bag Party Movement. The word tea-baggers has been used by those within the movement and by the liberals in the media/government/etc who want to put them down. If you are so worried about this term being used, you may want to quit the Democratic party too. So here we go.

1. "Using God as a way to get back to the White House."
"You know who else fed the poor? Jesus."
So, what you are saying is that it is not okay for the Tea Party to "use God," but is fine for you use Jesus to put down the Tea Party. Glad I could get that one straight.

2. Sarah Palin compared herself to God
I hardly think that saying "if writing on His hand was good enough for God it is good enoug for me" is comparing herself to God. That is like saying "if bread and wine were good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me" is comparing yourself to Jesus.

3. All tea-party membes are "right-wingers-for-Jesus."
Frankly, it seems like since Sarah Palin is a "fundamentalist Christian" you assume that everyone in the party is therefore the same. Maybe many are, but this is not true.

4. "Food, shelter, health care, and education are basic needs."
While they are basic needs for all people, this does not mean that the government necessarily needs to provide all of this for us. There are some people who are disabled or unable to find quality work who do need help. However, to say that if someone does not have these things the government needs to step in is insulting to the American people. We were founded on the basis that we have right to provide for ourselves, lest the government will have all control over us.

5. "Many Americans in poverty are not lazy"
I love this quote because you admit that there is a large portion of Americans in poverty that are lazy. Otherwise, you would have used a phrase like "nearly all" or "almost all." Many is a very vague word that could mean 51% for all we know.

6. The Bush deficits
1990 42.0
2000 35.1
2001 33.0
2002 34.1
2003 35.1
2004 37.3
2005 37.5
2006 37.1
2007 36.9
2008 40.8
2009 54.6
2010 67.1 (est)
2011 70.1 (est)

Looks to me like he kept them fairly steady for 8 years in terms of a percentage of our GDP. However, in just 3 years Obama will increase the debt by 30% of our GDP. While some of this can be attributed to the bailouts, most of it cannot.

I find it odd that a political science major would do so little background work into some of this information. There are definately problems with the tea party, government spending, and many other things, but at least get your facts straight and make adequat arguements.