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Column: Ooh that smell, can't you smell that smell?

Abstract:
There's a distinct stench that has hung over the McCain campaign for quite some time now; that familiar reek of something being not quite right, that something is not quite what it seems. The stench hangs over much of what he says and does. It tinges his speeches and can be ephemerally sensed around the edges of his campaign maneuvers....

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Bob O'link

posted 10/06/08 @ 3:54 PM CST

All politicians lie. Obama/McCain are politicians. Therefore, Obama/McCain lie. I'm a democrat, not a socialist so I'll be voting for McCain. Just like a Cub fan at playoff time your heart will be broken when you discover that Obama's more the politican than he's led you to believe. But that's just politics...good luck and may God bless us all.

Matt C

posted 10/07/08 @ 12:32 AM CST

Originally posted by

Bob O'link

All politicians lie. Obama/McCain are politicians. Therefore, Obama/McCain lie. I'm a democrat, not a socialist so I'll be voting for McCain. Just like a Cub fan at playoff time your heart will be broken when you discover that Obama's more the politican than he's led you to believe. But that's just politics...good luck and may God bless us all.


If your heart is broken because Obama has turned out to be more of a politician than you feel you were led to believe, then IMHO it's your own fault for having been so naive about him in the first place. I mean, what did you expect? Did you think he was some kind of saint? As you just said, all politicians lie. Trying to find a politician who is not a politician is the trap that conservative voters always seem to fall into.

Chris K

posted 10/06/08 @ 10:07 PM CST

My point wasn't that only McCain lies and that Obama is entirely truthful about everything. You're right - they are both politicians, and it seems that by definition a politician has to lie to appeal to his various constituents.

My point was that some of McCain's lies (particularly the ones I referenced in the column), are so egregious and so obviously lies, and yet he persists to recite them as if they were truths.

But I do feel for you on the Cubs. That truly was a heartbreaker.

Brad

posted 10/07/08 @ 7:22 AM CST

Originally posted by

Chris K

My point wasn't that only McCain lies and that Obama is entirely truthful about everything. You're right - they are both politicians, and it seems that by definition a politician has to lie to appeal to his various constituents.

My point was that some of McCain's lies (particularly the ones I referenced in the column), are so egregious and so obviously lies, and yet he persists to recite them as if they were truths.

But I do feel for you on the Cubs. That truly was a heartbreaker.


I guess my challenge for any Obama backer is to convince me to vote for him WITHOUT using the words McCain, Bush, Palin, Republican.... Tell me how he is qualified for the job? What does he really stand for? How does a community planner that belongs (or belonged depending on who you ask) to a radical church in Chicago going to make our country better? That is all I want to know.

Yes We Can!

posted 10/07/08 @ 9:10 AM CST

There are many reasons to support Obama. Read his plans. Read his polcies. Read his statements. Look online. Our country needs a passionate leader who is resourceful and graceful under pressure. There clearly is only one choice - Sen. Obama.

Brad

posted 10/07/08 @ 1:06 PM CST

Originally posted by

Yes We Can!

There are many reasons to support Obama. Read his plans. Read his polcies. Read his statements. Look online. Our country needs a passionate leader who is resourceful and graceful under pressure. There clearly is only one choice - Sen. Obama.


You still did not answer the question. All you did was dodge it. You must be on the Democrat payroll because that is the way they answer things to. Give me specific reasons that YOU believe he is more qualified. Remember...no using McCain, Bush, Republican....

Chris K

posted 10/07/08 @ 1:47 PM CST

This is in response to Brad's challenge.

There are plenty of good reasons to vote for Barack Obama. I can point them out without referencing McCain, Bush, or Republicans, although I'd argue that those are 3 of the biggest reasons. But if you insist...

Obama is pragmatic. While some call him a flip-flopper (I truly hate that term - since when is changing your mind for the better a bad thing?), he has taken stances on offshore drilling and telecommunications that while different from what he may have initially said, are still in the spirit of what he has supported and were changed to try and reach across the aisle for a solution.

Obama supports the middle class. He has said the middle class is the vehicle which drives the economy, and he wants to help alleviate the tax burden for them.

He doesn't pay token support to alternative forms of energy. Instead of wanting to Drill Baby Drill, a truly harebrained scheme that may sound good to some people but is really just a band-aid on a broken leg. And did I mention the band-aid won't get here for 5-10 years? Obama supports wind, solar, and nuclear energy sources to wean Americans from depending so much on oil.

Obama supports women. He supports a woman's right to choose and he supports equal pay for equal work by women.

Obama supports increasing funding for technology in schools, i.e. more hands-on programs and equipment to better engage students. This can help even the playing field between students from poorer schools and those at rich, suburban schools. And don't even get me started on school vouchers...

I'll add more later; have to get to class.

Matthew C

posted 10/07/08 @ 1:52 PM CST

Originally posted by

Yes We Can!

There are many reasons to support Obama. Read his plans. Read his polcies. Read his statements. Look online. Our country needs a passionate leader who is resourceful and graceful under pressure. There clearly is only one choice - Sen. Obama.


So you're demanding that we show you how he is qualified, but you refuse to allow us to compare him to his opponent in any way. Have you ever considered that you might be a little biased in your reasoning?

Obama was only my third choice for President, behind Kucinich and Gravel. I ended up voting for him in the primaries and will vote for him again in November because I want to expand Federal health coverage, I want to convert our energy industry off of fossil fuels and onto more renewable sources, and I don't want any "more wars" in the Middle East.

I know you don't want me to talk about the previous administration (that's a great sign isn't it?), but when Clinton left office, we had a $500 billion surplus. Bush has turned that into a $1.2 trillion DEFICIT and McCain voted with him 95% of the time. There is not a shred of daylight between McCain and Bush on any economic policy, and I for one do not think the country can survive another eight years of Bush (or God help us, Palin).

Chris K

posted 10/07/08 @ 7:18 PM CST

Now to respond to the accusation that all Obama is is a community organizer who belongs/belonged to a radical church. And I'll lump in the accusations about Ayers as well, because I know most Republicans have been programmed this week to bring it up in discussion.

The aspect of Obama's career that I feel often gets neglected is that he was Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Harvard Law School, where only the cream of the crop get into, and the Law Review, which chooses only the students with the very best grades. Obama was the best of the best when he was at Harvard, and he turned down jobs with big fancy firms that nowadays make upwards of $150,000 a year to go be a "community organizer" for $13,000. You can argue about the vagaries of that title all you want, and if you're Sarah Palin (oops, I slipped!) try and say it entails no responsibilities, but let's look at the facts. Obama registered 150,000 (which by the way is about half of the entire population of Alaska) new voters in some of the worst neighborhoods of Chicago. That's a phenomenal feat in some of the worst circumstances possible, way worse than the plush office he could've had and for way less money than he could've made. So yes, let's mock someone for a rare case of altruism.

And just a few brief words on Ayers, which ties into the theme of my column. I've yet to see proof that Obama more than knew the man and had one of his early-on campaign events hosted by him. But John McCain (damn) seems to think that one's character is to be judged by whom one lives by then I feel bad for any good people who live in bad neighborhoods where people on the street corner sell crack because by Republican (there I go again) logic you must yourself be a drug dealer. And furthermore, I wonder what this logic must reveal about McCain's character because of his relationships with Mark Foley, Ted Stevens, etcetera etcetera.
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