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Director of Greek Life reassigned

Abstract:
Bob Dudolski has been removed as Eastern's Director of Greek Life.

Eastern made an internal reassignment, said Dan Nadler, vice president for student affairs. Nadler said that Dudolski did not quit.

"Bob will be working on special projects for the foreseeable future within the Division of Student Affairs," Nadler said....

Too many questions

posted 3/24/08 @ 11:45 PM CST

Let me first say that I'm not in any way blaming the Den for how the story is covered. Being part of the Greek community here at EIU I have heard of story since early Sunday and have received the same information. My questions is WHY? Why has he been reassigned? What is the real story and what really happened? This is not exactly a small thing. I think everyone deserves some more answers. Bob Dudolski had a lot of control over how the greek system was run and was a major part of it. I think it is only fair for everyone involved to know what is truly going on. Rumors have started and I think it would be best for everyone if the real, whole story was released.

lindsay

posted 3/25/08 @ 9:45 AM CST

Originally posted by

Too many questions

Let me first say that I'm not in any way blaming the Den for how the story is covered. Being part of the Greek community here at EIU I have heard of story since early Sunday and have received the same information. My questions is WHY? Why has he been reassigned? What is the real story and what really happened? This is not exactly a small thing. I think everyone deserves some more answers. Bob Dudolski had a lot of control over how the greek system was run and was a major part of it. I think it is only fair for everyone involved to know what is truly going on. Rumors have started and I think it would be best for everyone if the real, whole story was released.


I completely agree with this, as a greek alumni who went to school when Bob was a Resident Director and Rebecca was in charge, I want to know why he was removed? Rebecca sucked! when I was there, and was glad to see that Bob got the job. Why was he removed? I am not on campus anymore to hear even the rumours!

Agree with above poster

posted 3/25/08 @ 8:02 AM CST

While the story is no doubt covered accurately, many questions arise when I read this article.

In addition to the questions asked above, is there anyone stepping in for Mr. Dodulski? If not, what is going to happen to the councils and greek organizations without a director of greek life? How will this effect the upcoming Greek Week celebrations? etc.

I may not be greek, but it is worrisome that so many questions have gone unanswered.

Dena Anderson

posted 3/25/08 @ 11:05 AM CST

Is this because of the partying and possible deaths that have occurred?

Agreed!

posted 3/25/08 @ 11:44 AM CST

Bob sucks we're happy hes gone!

Greek Alumni

posted 3/25/08 @ 3:06 PM CST

I think that its an unfortunate situation. I think that everyone should just respect the decisions of the University and Dr. Nadler.

Everyone has pros and cons. Bob is a nice person. Leave him alone, let the smoke clear and im sure all the rumors will be settled.

Greeks know what is expected of them regardless of who is the director. As long as they continue to follow their founding principles and the guidelines of the university, there should be no problems.

Good Luck Bob

posted 3/25/08 @ 4:02 PM CST

Bob - best of luck in your future! You are great and will be missed!

Observer

posted 3/25/08 @ 4:56 PM CST

Obviously it was something big or embarrassing for the University not to release the real story. If there was nothing to hide they would have revealed it. I bet one of the rumors is true. What are they?

Too many questions

posted 3/25/08 @ 9:06 PM CST

Originally posted by

Observer

Obviously it was something big or embarrassing for the University not to release the real story. If there was nothing to hide they would have revealed it. I bet one of the rumors is true. What are they?


Just know there are rumors and hopefully that's all they are. Because I do not know exactly what the story is, I am not going to be one to help spread the rumors that I have heard. As with any incomplete story, it has been left to the imagination of many to figure out what happened, which is very unfortunate. I do not think it is right for DR. Nadler to say there is no more information, especially to all the Greeks who have been led by Dudolski over the past few years. If the director of any organization or company was to be "reassigned" as they put it, everyone would expect answers, and rightfully so. From the last I've heard just under 20% of eastern's enrollment is involved in Greek life, that is definitely a significant amount of people who deserve an answer to what has happened.

Mondo

posted 3/25/08 @ 8:54 PM CST

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish! Maybe fraternities and sororities can be fun again

Bye Bob!

posted 3/25/08 @ 10:14 PM CST

I think most people are happy bobs gone. obviously he did something bad enough to get him removed. he shouldve been a long time ago. greek life keeps getting worse and worse! Agreed good riddance!

True Kiddo

posted 3/25/08 @ 11:53 PM CST

As a senior, I have seen many changes that Bob has help implemented in Greek Life at EIU. I have also heard stories from alums about all the great changes Bob made during his first few years at EIU. Bob always cared about his "kids" aka the Greek students at EIU. Many people did not take the opportunity to really get to know him. I am really sorry if you didn't.
Some people did not agree with some changes that Bob made. However, Bob always looked at the bigger picture and helped other Greek members see what was best for the EIU Greek Community. For those of you who do not know, EIU's Greek Community is nationally recognized as one of the best Greek Life Campuses. Many campuses are trying to be like us. We have the programming and resources that other colleges do not. Bob helped us get to where we are today.
Greek Life is about having fun - and Bob understood that. Yes there are some rules that are in Greek Life that many sororities and fraternities do not agree with, but they are there for a reason - so your chapter does not get shut down! Bob always made sure to be available and resourceful to chapters and to help them stay out of trouble.
Bob's Christmas was Greek Week. It's going to be very sad and different with him not there this year.
I do not know why Bob is gone. But its really none of my business or anybody else's associated with Greek Life at this time. The case is still under investigation and that is why we haven't been told anything. I am sure we will find out in the future.
For those of you who are glad that Bob is gone - I just want to know why you think that. What did he really do to you personally?
As of right now, all of us Greeks just need to keep practicing for Greek Week. Greek Week will still go on just as planned and be great like it always is. We need to show EIU that just because we lost a great member of our Greek Community, we are great Greeks and continue to strive to be the best!!!

Ryan

posted 3/26/08 @ 3:00 AM CST

He was too controlling even though he presented himself as open. I don't even know if he realized it. I wonder what his replacement will be like. Better the evil you know than the evil you don't know.

Dasnnyboygrr

posted 3/26/08 @ 10:53 AM CST

What are the rumors? Please inform the former alumni who are no longer on campus what is going on.

Me

posted 3/26/08 @ 2:48 PM CST

First as a former EIU greek Alumni who has worked with Bob, for Bob and in the Greek community I can honestly say that without a doubt he was a model, fair, just man. Not perfect but he did a Damn good job with the Greek Community. BLack, White, Asian, Gay, Straight, confused he was a fair and just man who attempted to put his best foot foward when it came to the people not just Greeks.

I bet that tore some of you a new ASso to know that EIU is used as a model for what a greek community should be, no that doesnt mean its perfect but honestly you have just lost a man who really loved his job, and would go to war for it. They say you dont miss the water until the well runs dry.. Well EIU the WELL is about to get DRY... dont get me wrong you might get someone who will get n their and get the job done, but you will never get someone as passionate as he

This doesnt mean Bob didnt make any mistakes but you show me someone who is Free from mistakes and I will show you my ASS, becasue its not going to happen.

As for the reasons why he isnt in that position anymore and what the ... They propably didnt pay him enough for all the Damn work he was doing, not including his housing responibilities and it was the straw that broke the damn camels back..... I dont know,, whatever it is its his business, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP BOB, YOU GOT MORE PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT LOVE THE HELL OUT OF YA MORE SO THEN ALL THESE DAMN HATERS......

Rumors

posted 3/26/08 @ 3:20 PM CST

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Dannyboygrr

posted 3/26/08 @ 5:11 PM CST

Originally posted by

Rumors

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AKA censorship

Mondo

posted 3/26/08 @ 3:40 PM CST

So the new model for a Greek Community is a facade of good community service and a limitation on social functions. If you want to wipe your ass you need three forms saying where and when. At other schools chapters respond only to their national boards, the fact that EIU owns most Greek houses makes us slaves to the often draconian laws of both Bob and the heavily Bob influenced, IFC.

RT

posted 3/28/08 @ 9:31 AM CST

Originally posted by

Mondo

So the new model for a Greek Community is a facade of good community service and a limitation on social functions. If you want to wipe your ass you need three forms saying where and when. At other schools chapters respond only to their national boards, the fact that EIU owns most Greek houses makes us slaves to the often draconian laws of both Bob and the heavily Bob influenced, IFC.


"draconian laws" aka "obeying the law." Sheesh.

YITBOS

posted 3/26/08 @ 4:11 PM CST

As a alumni from EIU, I have heard many stories of what Bob has pulled. It is amazing the rumor that are flying. I hope that EIU investigates his dealings with all his involvement with the greek IFC and Panhel. I hope punishment is served if he did what has been accussed of doing.

We will see what will happen, but I bet it will be swipt under the rug and we will never know what really happened.

GETovait

posted 3/26/08 @ 5:13 PM CST

First of all if the Chapters owned the houses in Greek court their national Insurance would be out the door, THe university owing it has everything to do with you going to school at EIU its apart of the campus community, which in reality says something about your organization becasue not every chapter has a house in greek court... With anything in life their are rules, if you dont like the rules, get your chapter together and buy an house off campus, and deal with Charleston FINest THE CPD Your not a slave to Greek court move out and get your nationals to buy you a house a few chapters have done that and have succedded. I guess being a slave is someone not allowing you to TEAR UP GREEK COURT, ripping doors down, hosting BEER PARTIES, Allowing underage Drinking, hosting EXTASCY PARTIES or ORGIES (Disclaimer: Not saying that does go on in Greek court) HE set rules and sometimes let you get away with the mistakes that were made but overall, those who truly worked and know bob, realize and understand that he did his job well, SOme of the organizations in greek court need a FREAKING LEASH on their neck, Truth be told... Im not naming names cause we all have had or fair share of ASSO moments and remember BOB took care of us......

Bluto

posted 3/26/08 @ 6:38 PM CST

Bob did an outstanding job for the greek students at Eastern. Everywhere you go there will always be rules. Mondo, its time to graduate and move on with your life. Seriously, your parents who probably are the first generation walking on two feet would be so proud. The greek model is no facade, its a model that is well respected on a national level. It has its problems like any other school the difference is that Eastern holds its students to a higher level. Fortunately I belonged to a top house and we never had to worry about parties or functions because we had more than our fare share. People get fired it happens give the man his respects and move on with your life. If anyone is bored and looking for a good time I am sure Mondo is sitting in his room in Greek court wishing someone would talk to him.

Alum1869

posted 3/26/08 @ 9:22 PM CST

Bob was great leader in the Greek community. It's unfortunate something like this had to happen. Innocent or guilty, he cared about the students. Almost anyone who would say some of the things on this thread probably never met with him on a personal level. If they had, I can't imagine they would say the things they had. Bob will most definitely land on his feet.

Shannon, 2007 Greek Alum

posted 3/26/08 @ 11:08 PM CST

It amazes me what some people are writing on this thread. Instead of focusing on what Bob could have done to be removed from his position, why don't all of you collegiate members ponder what YOUR greek system is going to be like now??? Do you realize how fortunate you are to have had the Greek experience you've received here at EIU? Do you think it's just a coincidence that our Greek system is nationally recognized?? Do you think other universities just randomly selected EIU to model their greek systems off of? Of course not. The Greek system here at EIU is a reflection of the passion, hard work, and dedication many people have put into over the years. Bob was an integral member of that group! Instead of wasting your time bashing someone for rumors that have yet to be confirmed, why don't you spend time determining what you are going to do to help recover from this.

To those of you who have used this thread as a way to vent about the rules and regulations that were put in place by Bob, GET OVER IT. Those rules are there for a reason and if it's not going to be Bob implementing them, it will be another University employee.

Finally, as a plee for those that I, and many others care about, please respect the people (Greek Life Staff, Student Affairs, IFC, PHC, Chapter Presidents, and Steering Committee) who are trying to continue to give you a wonderful Greek Week and greek life experience. This is a hard thing for everyone and negative criticism doesn't help.

Former Greek President

posted 3/27/08 @ 2:25 AM CST

I guess my response to the whole thing so far is, I don't care? Bob, was a great leader for the Greek Community at Eastern, and nationally. During his time here Eastern became a powerhouse within the MGCA. He was a great guy and surely the state of Eastern's Greek Community would be much different or non-existent without his insight and forward thinking.

During my time working with Bob we didn't particularly see eye to eye on many things, but I came to respect him for what he has done for Eastern and its students. It goes without saying that the Greek Community has benefited from his leadership, and I urge students and alumni to remember this. We place our leaders in a higher standard, and when they falter it at times is to easy to forget that they too are human. Whatever may have happened, let us not forget the changes he made to better Greek life at Eastern.

And the people saying that Bob destroyed the fun of being Greek, talk to your alumni about what Eastern was like before his tenure. And don't talk to the successful, graduated members within your organizations, talk to the coked-out-dropouts.

Bob,best wishes in your future endeavors.

This is quite amusing...

posted 3/27/08 @ 10:17 AM CST

This discussion has been quite amusing. For years there have integrity questions surrounding Mr. Dudolski. A large number of people had suspicions that there was something going on and few were ever willing to speak up becuase they feared retribution by him. Why didn't the DEN bring up the fact that he was forced to leave his residence on Greek Court and is not allowed to have any interaction with Greek students! There is something going on here and I have a feeling Mr. Dudolski true character will come out. In the end those that think he was such an asset are going to realize he is truly a liability to the University.

Dannyboygrr

posted 3/27/08 @ 2:09 PM CST

Does the DEN ever follow up on the stories they present? It seems this one is creating a buzz, yet there hasn't been anything else about it since. I am also still waiting on someone to comment about what the controversy is about this guy. Why did he have to move out of Greek Court? What are the rumors surrounding his reassignment. It seems someone wrote in earlier, but the DEN deleated their post. Come on DEN, do your job or let the people who know what is going on at least speak.

Greek Life Grad Staff

posted 3/27/08 @ 3:06 PM CST

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Dannyboygrr

posted 3/27/08 @ 3:26 PM CST

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Colorado State IFC

posted 3/27/08 @ 3:43 PM CST

Well we aren't surprised here at CSU. Our Greek Life Director told us that Bob was shady and that he used to buy the councils at MGCA beer and alcohol at MGCA if they won awards. Mark and Sonia would have never done that for us.

Broncos

posted 3/27/08 @ 5:01 PM CST

Originally posted by

Colorado State IFC

Well we aren't surprised here at CSU. Our Greek Life Director told us that Bob was shady and that he used to buy the councils at MGCA beer and alcohol at MGCA if they won awards. Mark and Sonia would have never done that for us.


Interesting little opinoin you have provided us. Here is one for you, ask your "great" greek life advisor about his relationships with students and then ask him about the "enchanted castle" he belongs too. Everyone is entitled to there own opinions but what I give you IFC president if facts.

Informed in Colorado

posted 3/28/08 @ 2:59 PM CST

Originally posted by

Colorado State IFC

Well we aren't surprised here at CSU. Our Greek Life Director told us that Bob was shady and that he used to buy the councils at MGCA beer and alcohol at MGCA if they won awards. Mark and Sonia would have never done that for us.


[QUOTE id="c721b45b-1414-4fa7-b66c-3e377083b3de"]Interesting little opinoin you have provided us. Here is one for you, ask your "great" greek life advisor about his relationships with students and then ask him about the "enchanted castle" he belongs too. Everyone is entitled to there own opinions but what I give you IFC president if facts.[/QUOTE]

You do realize that Sonja is a she....not a he.

Greek Leader

posted 3/30/08 @ 11:42 PM CST

Originally posted by

Colorado State IFC

Well we aren't surprised here at CSU. Our Greek Life Director told us that Bob was shady and that he used to buy the councils at MGCA beer and alcohol at MGCA if they won awards. Mark and Sonia would have never done that for us.

Ah, weren't you the campus being brought up by the keynote speakers at MGCA for having one house literally DESTROY a hotel room? I'm pretty sure you were the example of who not to model ourselves after. I'll let our 8 straight years of winning every award possible speak for themselves thanks. And if you want to pretend that no one goes out at MGCA, held in downtown Chicago, you can save it.

I have my own opinions of Bob, both good and bad. Overall he is human, thats it! He makes mistakes, yes. He can be tunnel-visioned as well. The IFC has gone to battle with him numerous times, so we know all too well how stubborn he can be. However, he meant well, and it's unfortunate the situation we are in now. He obviously made mistakes, and I can understand the university's opinions, but I will remember the contributions that Bob made for Greek Life on this campus. As far as I'm concerned, the good he has done for our campus far outweighs the bad.

Bye Bob

posted 3/27/08 @ 7:44 PM CST

Bob will be missed. But I assume there is a good reason. Now the administration at EIU should look at others in that office of the MLK Union. Start cleaning house Nadler, get rid of Ceci too!!!!

Johnson

posted 3/28/08 @ 1:18 PM CST

Originally posted by

Bye Bob

Bob will be missed. But I assume there is a good reason. Now the administration at EIU should look at others in that office of the MLK Union. Start cleaning house Nadler, get rid of Ceci too!!!!


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Mondo

posted 3/28/08 @ 4:37 AM CST

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Shocked

posted 3/28/08 @ 8:33 AM CST

I am shocked an amazed at the number people who have such pathetic lives that they can't wait for the opportunity to jump on the chance to try to destroy a fellow human beings character and reputation. People that actually look for the opportunity to grab hold of unsubstantiated rumors and false conjecture (Mondo pull your head out your arse). I may not always see eye to eye with Bob, but I do respect him and know matter what the circumstances he deserves respect. You can spend all day making your hurtful comments and starting more rumors but you will never know the real truth because you are too hung up on the rumors and would rather believe a good story then what is really true. What is really true is that Bob not only devoted his career to EIU and the Greek Community there, but he devoted his life to it. He created a nationally recognized program and that is what you should all be talking about. To Bob, you a great man and do NOT let the self-centered, pathetic individuals that look for the opportunity to try to hurt people instead of them help them affect you in any way. Great things are coming your way! To those of you who have nothing better to do then be hateful, it will come back to you.

YITBOS

posted 3/28/08 @ 10:38 AM CST

Originally posted by

Shocked

I am shocked an amazed at the number people who have such pathetic lives that they can't wait for the opportunity to jump on the chance to try to destroy a fellow human beings character and reputation. People that actually look for the opportunity to grab hold of unsubstantiated rumors and false conjecture (Mondo pull your head out your arse). I may not always see eye to eye with Bob, but I do respect him and know matter what the circumstances he deserves respect. You can spend all day making your hurtful comments and starting more rumors but you will never know the real truth because you are too hung up on the rumors and would rather believe a good story then what is really true. What is really true is that Bob not only devoted his career to EIU and the Greek Community there, but he devoted his life to it. He created a nationally recognized program and that is what you should all be talking about. To Bob, you a great man and do NOT let the self-centered, pathetic individuals that look for the opportunity to try to hurt people instead of them help them affect you in any way. Great things are coming your way! To those of you who have nothing better to do then be hateful, it will come back to you.


It is amazing how people say that he crated a nationally recognized program. If you look at history, EIU has won many awards dating back to the late 1970's and early 1980's. The greek community has always been very strong and has had ups and down. He has taken a ride on the hard work of the members of the greek community. DON'T BE FOOLED!!!!

toot

posted 3/28/08 @ 4:00 PM CST

Now as a fellow greek you are right the students have done the leg work and implemented the programs but the foundation was laid by the administrators. I dont think that comment was made to take away from the greek community becasue we are aware that the job doesnt get done by bob but the students but lets not get to hasty and just play make believe , bob as well as other administrators are put in place to make sure that we follow through as well as offer mentorship. Lets be honest we need the guidance and direction when sometimes we go astry, and maybe bob did go astray I DONT KNOW, but his streengths outweigh his weaknesses...

You are nuts

posted 3/28/08 @ 9:40 AM CST

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You are nuts

posted 3/28/08 @ 9:44 AM CST

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Breaking News

posted 3/28/08 @ 12:23 PM CST

UPDATE...Bob is on campus today. I spotted him in the Administration building.

by bob

posted 3/28/08 @ 1:01 PM CST

Must have been good reason to get rid of him, but he will be missed. Nadler should look at other administrators in that office of the MLK Jr. Union and clean more house, get rid of Ceci Brinker next!!

Johnson

posted 3/29/08 @ 7:46 PM CST

Originally posted by

by bob

Must have been good reason to get rid of him, but he will be missed. Nadler should look at other administrators in that office of the MLK Jr. Union and clean more house, get rid of Ceci Brinker next!!




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not purrfect

posted 3/28/08 @ 3:53 PM CST

This is so funny,now you want them to get rid of Ceci and Kim.. How about lets fire all the EIU administrators who are known as hard asses and let the studnets run a muck. Not going to happen, These are all humans who make human mistakes, not perfect just people trying to better the studnets, yes sometimes they dont listen and have sticks up there asses (especially ceci brinker) but they all have a passion for student affairs and love the work and are dedicated ..look at how much they get paid and you would realize its a passion, because if it wasnt they could have left EIU and got more money..

Greek Alumni

posted 3/28/08 @ 4:47 PM CST

All I can say is don't believe the rumors. Look at the facts. Bob is gone from Greek life and Greek Ct. He has no communication with students and the truth has not come out. He obviously is involved with some scandal and investigation. I want to know how many awards and perks the "Bob" supporters have won every spring at the awards banquets. You give him what he wants and he gives you what you want. Bob is a manipulator and a liar. I know him on many levels and have never trusted nor liked the guy. However, you had to suck up to him to get a favorable response. He worked hard and meant well, but this was just a position he was not ready to handle. It's too bad, but life goes on. Get ready for Greek Week and stay the course. In ten years when all of you are long gone you won't care to remember this situation. However, the person from Colorado is right on with his comments and his director's comments. Shady things happened when I was there years ago, doesn't surprise me to see they are still going on. Find out where the money came from for that booze and you might be on the right track...

True Son of Sphinx

posted 3/29/08 @ 10:27 AM CST

For one I will miss Bob. Bob is a mentor of mine and some one I have spent some great and some not so great moments. He was there over my term as president of my chapter when the shit really hit the fan. He helped us through major transitions that the chapter is still feeling the effects of in many aspects. He is one of my best friends and advisors and always encouraged me to do what was right, not what was popular. I really am not sure yet how Greek Life is going to shape up as the semester ends and they begin a process to bring on a new director. I am sure this director will be an amazing person; they will have to be to even have a fighting chance of filling that great big chair in the Greek Life office.

As far as why he is gone, I agree we will probably never really know, but I am sure it was warranted. Universities don't just remove people for no reason. However, I don't think it was for anything illegal, just maybe unethical. That being said I will never, ever doubt Bob's dedication to his "kids" and the community he laid the foundation for us as Greek leaders to build. To be a little less poetic, most people wouldn't put up with the shit Bob did on a daily basis from the haters and skeptics if he didn't know what he was doing was right. That ladies and gentlemen is called passion, love, and determination.

To address those who believe this as a time to rejoice and prepare the ecstasy and order the keg so you and the boys can run wild you may have another thing coming. Right now the future of the position of director of Greek Life is in the hands of Dr. Dan Nadler. Nadler is not exactly someone that believes in the Greek stereotypes and I am sure he won't bring in someone that would ever let our Greek Community fall back into the habits of Animal House. So you may think that "now fraternities and sororities can be fun again", but my friends you are going to be very disappointed.

Finally, I would like to communicate with one other poster. As some one whom is Bob's "brother" by oath and affiliation you may want to consider a little passage paraphrased from your ritual (and mine too for that matter). It goes something like this...I will never injure a brother in reputation, person, or estate, either by word of mouth or deed. So, just for the record don't use those letters for your name if you are going to forget what they mean. You may not have said anything too harsh, but sometimes just staying out of it is the brotherly thing to do.

Brotherhood???

posted 3/29/08 @ 5:51 PM CST

Originally posted by

True Son of Sphinx

For one I will miss Bob. Bob is a mentor of mine and some one I have spent some great and some not so great moments. He was there over my term as president of my chapter when the shit really hit the fan. He helped us through major transitions that the chapter is still feeling the effects of in many aspects. He is one of my best friends and advisors and always encouraged me to do what was right, not what was popular. I really am not sure yet how Greek Life is going to shape up as the semester ends and they begin a process to bring on a new director. I am sure this director will be an amazing person; they will have to be to even have a fighting chance of filling that great big chair in the Greek Life office.

As far as why he is gone, I agree we will probably never really know, but I am sure it was warranted. Universities don't just remove people for no reason. However, I don't think it was for anything illegal, just maybe unethical. That being said I will never, ever doubt Bob's dedication to his "kids" and the community he laid the foundation for us as Greek leaders to build. To be a little less poetic, most people wouldn't put up with the shit Bob did on a daily basis from the haters and skeptics if he didn't know what he was doing was right. That ladies and gentlemen is called passion, love, and determination.

To address those who believe this as a time to rejoice and prepare the ecstasy and order the keg so you and the boys can run wild you may have another thing coming. Right now the future of the position of director of Greek Life is in the hands of Dr. Dan Nadler. Nadler is not exactly someone that believes in the Greek stereotypes and I am sure he won't bring in someone that would ever let our Greek Community fall back into the habits of Animal House. So you may think that "now fraternities and sororities can be fun again", but my friends you are going to be very disappointed.

Finally, I would like to communicate with one other poster. As some one whom is Bob's "brother" by oath and affiliation you may want to consider a little passage paraphrased from your ritual (and mine too for that matter). It goes something like this...I will never injure a brother in reputation, person, or estate, either by word of mouth or deed. So, just for the record don't use those letters for your name if you are going to forget what they mean. You may not have said anything too harsh, but sometimes just staying out of it is the brotherly thing to do.




"I will never injure a brother in reputation, person, or estate, either by word of mouth or deed."

As a recent graduate, I can think of at least a handful of "brothers" Bob has slammed in my five years there. If you're that close to Bob I'm sure you know of some "brothers" yourself that Bob has "injured by word of mouth." Don't be too quick to question the credibililty of rituals or oaths of "brothers" when we don't know the degree of the infraction
(s).

FLIP

posted 3/30/08 @ 10:38 AM CST

Originally posted by

True Son of Sphinx

For one I will miss Bob. Bob is a mentor of mine and some one I have spent some great and some not so great moments. He was there over my term as president of my chapter when the shit really hit the fan. He helped us through major transitions that the chapter is still feeling the effects of in many aspects. He is one of my best friends and advisors and always encouraged me to do what was right, not what was popular. I really am not sure yet how Greek Life is going to shape up as the semester ends and they begin a process to bring on a new director. I am sure this director will be an amazing person; they will have to be to even have a fighting chance of filling that great big chair in the Greek Life office.

As far as why he is gone, I agree we will probably never really know, but I am sure it was warranted. Universities don't just remove people for no reason. However, I don't think it was for anything illegal, just maybe unethical. That being said I will never, ever doubt Bob's dedication to his "kids" and the community he laid the foundation for us as Greek leaders to build. To be a little less poetic, most people wouldn't put up with the shit Bob did on a daily basis from the haters and skeptics if he didn't know what he was doing was right. That ladies and gentlemen is called passion, love, and determination.

To address those who believe this as a time to rejoice and prepare the ecstasy and order the keg so you and the boys can run wild you may have another thing coming. Right now the future of the position of director of Greek Life is in the hands of Dr. Dan Nadler. Nadler is not exactly someone that believes in the Greek stereotypes and I am sure he won't bring in someone that would ever let our Greek Community fall back into the habits of Animal House. So you may think that "now fraternities and sororities can be fun again", but my friends you are going to be very disappointed.

Finally, I would like to communicate with one other poster. As some one whom is Bob's "brother" by oath and affiliation you may want to consider a little passage paraphrased from your ritual (and mine too for that matter). It goes something like this...I will never injure a brother in reputation, person, or estate, either by word of mouth or deed. So, just for the record don't use those letters for your name if you are going to forget what they mean. You may not have said anything too harsh, but sometimes just staying out of it is the brotherly thing to do.


How do you mean slammed? As in anal piledriver or some other form of Greek advising.

YITBOS

posted 3/31/08 @ 12:35 PM CST

To paraphrase ritual...."A man who is outstanding in every way, respected by those that know him, loved by his friends, his word is his bond and he has unfaulting faith in his fraterity.....

Is he outstanding in every way and respected by those that know him?
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True Son of Sphinx

For one I will miss Bob. Bob is a mentor of mine and some one I have spent some great and some not so great moments. He was there over my term as president of my chapter when the shit really hit the fan. He helped us through major transitions that the chapter is still feeling the effects of in many aspects. He is one of my best friends and advisors and always encouraged me to do what was right, not what was popular. I really am not sure yet how Greek Life is going to shape up as the semester ends and they begin a process to bring on a new director. I am sure this director will be an amazing person; they will have to be to even have a fighting chance of filling that great big chair in the Greek Life office.

As far as why he is gone, I agree we will probably never really know, but I am sure it was warranted. Universities don't just remove people for no reason. However, I don't think it was for anything illegal, just maybe unethical. That being said I will never, ever doubt Bob's dedication to his "kids" and the community he laid the foundation for us as Greek leaders to build. To be a little less poetic, most people wouldn't put up with the shit Bob did on a daily basis from the haters and skeptics if he didn't know what he was doing was right. That ladies and gentlemen is called passion, love, and determination.

To address those who believe this as a time to rejoice and prepare the ecstasy and order the keg so you and the boys can run wild you may have another thing coming. Right now the future of the position of director of Greek Life is in the hands of Dr. Dan Nadler. Nadler is not exactly someone that believes in the Greek stereotypes and I am sure he won't bring in someone that would ever let our Greek Community fall back into the habits of Animal House. So you may think that "now fraternities and sororities can be fun again", but my friends you are going to be very disappointed.

Finally, I would like to communicate with one other poster. As some one whom is Bob's "brother" by oath and affiliation you may want to consider a little passage paraphrased from your ritual (and mine too for that matter). It goes something like this...I will never injure a brother in reputation, person, or estate, either by word of mouth or deed. So, just for the record don't use those letters for your name if you are going to forget what they mean. You may not have said anything too harsh, but sometimes just staying out of it is the brotherly thing to do.

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